A Conversation With Chris Devlin
Chris Devlin — Founding Partner, Pivotal
Agencies evolving from suppliers to strategic partners — and why most can’t
Episode summary
Chris Devlin brings the talent market perspective to the agency transformation conversation. Agencies are being squeezed: clients demand more, margins are tighter, and the talent agencies need to compete is getting harder to attract and retain.
A striking data point: 64% of talented people would leave an agency that isn't embracing AI. It's not just a technology issue — it's a recruitment and retention crisis. Talent wants to work where there's innovation and strategic ambition, not where there's resistance to change.
Chris highlights the growing fractional model — agencies bringing in specialist contractors for short engagements rather than hiring full-time. This is budget-conscious but creates a mentorship problem. Meanwhile, agencies are trying to move upstream in client organisations, but aspiration isn't enough. You can't simply tell execution people to start thinking strategically. They need a system.
Key insight
64% of people would leave an agency that isn't embracing AI. Agencies are trying to move upstream but can't just tell execution people to think strategically — they need a methodology.
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