The Space Between
Conversations at the intersection of strategy, agencies, and the forces reshaping both.
Hosted by Ben Slater, Seth Hawthorne, and Debbie Richardson. New episodes fortnightly.
All episodes
A Conversation With Dan Reeves
Dan Reeves — AI/SEO Specialist
AI answer engines are the new discovery frontier — beyond traditional SEO
A Conversation With Tom Salmon
Tom Salmon — Industry Strategist
Creative is commoditising fast — the pressure is moving upstream to strategy
A Conversation With Emma Kelly
Emma Kelly — Agency/Client Strategist
Post-pandemic relationship dynamics — from transactional drag to relational intelligence
A Conversation With Ben Flintoff
Ben Flintoff — Senior Marketing Strategist
Sector expertise as competitive advantage — from banking to franchising
A Conversation with Remeny Armitage
Remeny Armitage — Strategic Practitioner
The space between what’s asked and what’s actually needed
A Conversation With Aaron Hutchinson
Aaron Hutchinson — Founder, The Hutch Consultancy
Why agencies systematically undervalue strategy — and the framework to fix it
A Conversation With Roy Murphy
Roy Murphy — Co-founder, Generate
AI is structural change, not a cycle dip — agencies must reposition or collapse
A Conversation With Chris Devlin
Chris Devlin — Founding Partner, Pivotal
Agencies evolving from suppliers to strategic partners — and why most can’t
A Conversation With Marc Holland
Marc Holland — Senior Marketing Leader — Lego, O2, Shark Ninja
The client perspective on what agencies should actually do differently
The Conversations We Don’t Have
MSQ Team
Hidden tensions in leadership teams — the things we don’t say shape everything
About the podcast
Hosted by Ben Slater, Seth Hawthorne, and Debbie Richardson. The Space Between tracks structural shifts in the agency landscape — from holding company collapse to the independent agency opportunity.
Each episode connects market dynamics to strategic action, through conversations with the people navigating the change first-hand.